Missing features

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sakomicro

Hi!

I baught Microthemer and after using it for a while I found the following missing features and wanted to ask if these will be addressed in the near future or if they go against your product philosophie:

Ability to …

… set open Microthemer together with Elementor as default

… make the advanced panel hight adjustable

… open Page Navigator as a tabed dockable panel with the “all available pages as a list” panel allready expanded

… then make all “list panels” resizable (MOST IMPORTANT), remembering their size, searchable and tabed dockable panels

… put the list of all variables (Like it appears on the field value pulldowns) in an extra tabed dockable panel

… then make the list of variables folder-groupable like the selectors including the renaming feature and this renamed and grouped list appears on the field value pulldowns. New entries are put into the general folder like in the selector version.

… then do the same thing with the sampled values

Thanks


Sebastian

Hey,

Thanks so much for your feedback. All great points! They’re not against the philosophy, some are coming soon. My answers, with some requests for clarification.

… set open Microthemer together with Elementor as default
This has been requested before, and I’m happy to add a preference for this in the settings

… make the advanced panel height adjustable
I will add support for this in version 7, which will be released as a beta in the next month or two.

… open Page Navigator as a tabbed dockable panel with the “all available pages as a list” panel already expanded
Could you clarify how this differs from the current page navigation menu, and what the advantages are, just so I’m clear on what asking?

MT pages menu

… then make all “list panels” resizable (MOST IMPORTANT), remembering their size, searchable and tabed dockable panels
What do you mean by “list panels” here?

… put the list of all variables (Like it appears on the field value pulldowns) in an extra tabed dockable panel
… then make the list of variables folder-groupable like the selectors including the renaming feature and this renamed and grouped list appears on the field value pulldowns. New entries are put into the general folder like in the selector version.

Sure, UI variable management is already planned. This will follow support for sub-folders. Collections of variables can be added as folder items, like selectors currently are. Version 7 will also allow for custom code snippets in folders, replacing the single Full code editor view.

… then do the same thing with the sampled values
Might that be overkill? Sampled values can be saved so they appear at the top of the dropdown menus for easy reuse. But perhaps I’m missing something. What problems have you had with the current system of sampled values?

Cheers,
Sebastian


sakomicro

First of all: I am definitly looking forward to that Version 7!

So thanks for your detailed feedback! As you said the parts “M und E opening together as default” + “Better Variable management” are covered in the new version… the big missing part which is the base for all other elements I did ask for is the “resizable (MOST IMPORTANT), remembering their size, searchable and tabed dockable panels. What I mean with that is basicly the ability to handle ALL of your Popup and pulldown dialogs to become dockable panels. Here is why:

– The general monitor real estate is growing by the hour so to say. So there is no need to emphasize that much on only using as little as possible space with the interface. And your tool definitly looks like it´s the king of hiding tons and tons of features 🙂

– The bad thing about that is, that the interface is constantly changing. Menus pop up and hide again in a way that is irritating (at least for me 🙂 )

– The other thing is the fixed size of the popups und pulldowns. While the monitor is ten times bigger I have to scroll through very long lists packed into a tiny fixed window. Having those popups go as big as possible would make it easy to see all avaible values at the same time.

– The last thing is the dockability: With this option one could combine the benefits of the solutions for the upper two problems. The user can place the panels that are importend for his/her way to work where they want (left right top bottom), don´t have to memorize where those lists where hidden and would have a rather “stable” interface in terms of things are open and stay where they are. And he/she could stack these panel-windows using all the monitor space there is available and by that making them as big and long as one needs. I am used to work in this kind of Software within so many tools espacialy when working with vfx and motiongraphics. They all follow the concept of rearrangable workspaces.

I am aware of the fact that having those lists attached to the points where they are used like your field value pulldowns. But there you could still make them bigger as they are now or better adjustable.

But there are many cases where I would say: Having the Popup/Pulldown as a constantly open dockable window where one can allways see what is available and instantly click on it is a better solution:

– Page Navigator ( That is such a great tool having all those pages, templates and stuff dynamically in one place) It could become my one-stop central navigation between all my pages and templates, but clicking the pulldown open and then starting to scroll for the one I am looking for and then clicking that one is pretty tedious compared to a one glance one click solution.

– Selector groups (The ordering in folders is great but having them constantly open with the most used folders “open” would be even better.

– Variable groups (Same thing)

– Code Editor, Styles, Computed, Target Suggestions (Yes I can switch to the side… But why is it not possible to resize this panel then. Or open them all side by side on the right side)

– Generated CSS and JS

– History

– and more…

And as I am here allready I and some more missing features that the other 2 big CSS editiors have and which are very usefull:

Navigator with human readable titles
https://prnt.sc/110ttpg

Code editor schowing only the selected elements
https://prnt.sc/110tunv

Wireframe mode
https://prnt.sc/110tv0l

Human readable Asset overview
https://prnt.sc/110tvbo

animation timeline
https://prnt.sc/110tvok

all editing capabilities at one glance
https://prnt.sc/110tvx8

text and icons not only icons for features
https://prnt.sc/110twce

selector tree at a glance
https://prnt.sc/110twmj

No code variable creator
https://prnt.sc/110txqz

That got a bit long, sorry 😉

Sascha


Sebastian

Hey,

Thanks for the clarification. I’m with you on the dockable panels. In version 7, the options at the top right will move a little closer to this, by moving some content from popups to a menu. But it won’t be dockable yet. Making everything dockable would be a subsequent feature, as the scope of version 7 is already quite large. But a number of your points with be addressed. Perhaps we could continue this conversation after the release of version 7?

And in the meantime, you may find the following useful:

– You can use “Ctrl + Alt +N” to bring up the page search field. Start typing to filter the results/search.
– You can already work with a “Code editor schowing only the selected elements”. See the option to the left of the Font property group. And you can dock this left via View > Dock editor only left.

Cheers,
Sebastian


sakomicro

Thanks for the tips! And yes sure let´s get back to this after the release. Good luck with it!

Sascha

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